angstgoddess003 ([info]angstgoddess003) wrote,

The name are Bond. James Bond.

Since my post questioning the validity of a self-proclaimed FanFiction.net administrator, James, I have received numerous copies of emails sent from him to FanFiction.net members; some unsolicited, some received as replies to emails sent to the support@fanfiction.com email address.



Here are some examples of his correspondence. All pennames have been removed for privacy.

In this case, an author has asked James why he has been citing stories for the long length of author notes, though the TOS doesn't specify that authors must practice any form of brevity in A/Ns, simply that A/Ns can't be posted as entire chapters.

From: FanFiction.Net Support <support@fanfiction.com>
Date: Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:28 AM
To: ----NAME REMOVED FOR PRIVACY-----

Author Notes are allowed, but they should be short and concise.  Interactive action like Q&A's, announcements, shout out to reviewers, are not allowed.  They are a violation of the the site rules. 

Please keep the story section for stories.  Use forums, PM's, communities for communication with other members.

--
James
FanFiction.Net Support

Never mind that this has never been FFn protocol before, or the fact that James is making up his own guidelines all of a sudden, but upon being asked to point out directly in the TOS where it specifies A/N length, James replies with this snarky message:

From: FanFiction.Net Support <support@fanfiction.com>
Date: Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:32 AM
To: ----NAME REMOVED FOR PRIVACY-----

Because I have laid out the exact types of AN that are not allowed on my 1st email to you.  Did you see the word "short"? 
--
James
FanFiction.Net Support


On another occasion, an author emailed support@fanfiction.net in regards to the same issue regarding A/Ns, and also questioned the legitimacy of his position at fanfiction.net. This was his reply:

From: FanFiction.Net Support <support@fanfiction.com>
Date: Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:19 PM
To: ----NAME REMOVED FOR PRIVACY-----

Please refer to the site Guideline, http://www.fanfiction.net/guidelines/  There is a reason we require every author to agree to the terms each time they post on our site.  The rating system and what is allowed is clearly stated within.

As for the IP address rumor, I can tell you all the warning letters are legit.  It is ironic that when people email this very email for assistance or to report site issues, they never questioned its validity.  Yet when the reply are not to their liking, they started to question its legitimacy.  Perhaps when the deletions comes around due their failure to comply, they will finally know this email's validity.
 
--
James
FanFiction.Net Support


In another response to a reader who asked why certain stories were being cited for guideline violations, James displays the grammar obviously indicative of someone who's been hired to represent a literary archive.

From: FanFiction.Net Support <support@fanfiction.com>
Date: Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:19 PM
To: ----NAME REMOVED FOR PRIVACY-----

Our site do not allow MA rated stories.  If they authors do comply with our rules by amending their stories to reflect such, we will delete the offending stories.

--
James
FanFiction.Net Support


Most alarming of all, however, was a response sent to this author, who asked how she could possibly keep her story live, since she'd been sent a warning regarding, once again, an improper length of her author notes. She was having trouble finding out how to edit a chapter, which as you know, for new members can be a bit confusing.

From: FanFiction.Net Support <support@fanfiction.com>
Date: Fri, Feb 27, 2010 at 9:34 AM
To: ----NAME REMOVED FOR PRIVACY-----

If you remove the last two paragraphs then it will fall in line with guiideline. I can't show you how to do it unless I go into your account.

Please refer to the site Guideline, http://www.fanfiction.net/guidelines/
 
--
James
FanFiction.Net Support


Here, he is all but asking for access to her account, under the guise of keeping her story live, which seems rather ironic, seeing as how, if he can pull the story for these "violations," then he should already have access to her account.

I took my concerns to a few people I thought might be able to offer any kind of information regarding any past activity from support@fanfiction.com. The first two people I contacted were staffers at FanFiction.net between 2005 and 2008.

Former Staffer #1 said:


I haven't been a staff member at FFnet for years, but that isn't how things have ever been done on FFnet. I would suggest using either the second or third email here (http://www.fanfiction.net/support/) to contact one of the current staff members so they can determine whether it is an in-house staffing issue. If the stories broke FFNet's rules then they were correctly removed and the authors - to be brutally honest - have no one to blame for that but themselves. The emails really do not sound like a FFNet staffer at all, so I think it's more likely that you're dealing with a troll.

Just a note, if it's not a FFnet staff member and they are not harassing members on FFnet but via email/livejournal, I really don't think there is anything Xing would be able to do about the situation other than give you a heads up.

Former Staffer #2 said:


Suspicious indeed. This isn't the FFnet protocol I've known, that's for sure. I don't think I can see Xing allowing that kind of behavior, and to my knowledge, he is still owner of the whole FFnet operation. Have you tried the other email addresses? I doubt you'll be able to get a hold of anyone else over there, but don't give up. Make a big scene and they'll have to say something. Go to the meta fandoms maybe. They usually have members from all sorts of fandoms.  I agree that it isn't much to ask to have his position legitimized. I never would have gotten away with that kind of language or behavior.

Keep me posted if you can. If I can find any way to get a hold of a known staffer, I'll let you know.


I then took my suspicions to the streets, so to speak, to reach out to other fandoms. I mean... this can't be specific to Twilight, since I'm confident other people have sent emails to this address. Thus far, no one has come forward from other fandoms with any experiences with this person, but it's still early.

Finding a timeline is most difficult. Whereas James has shown an enormous amount of activity within the last six weeks alone, I have also received emails from members who got sporadic and random replies from him between July 2009 and October 2009, though these occurrences seem to be very rare in comparison.

(Based upon emails forwarded to me from members of FanFiction.net, signed by James, with the suspicious email headers and IPs.)

James ceased all correspondence with me personally once I requested the name or email address of a superior/colleague who could verify his place on the staff there. Furthermore, I haven't yet received any verification of activity coming from this email address since concerns regarding his legitimacy were made public.

So, though it is clear that his presence with the support email address has been documented within the last eight months (I have received no verification of activity before this date, thus far), it is apparent that his activity is rising. Many have theories on this, ranging from him possibly being a disgruntled former employee, or even so far as to believe that James is just a troll who is only now making full use of his access to the email.

I can't confirm or deny any of these theories, nor am I particularly interested in the propagation of speculation. FanFiction.net's tumultuous inner affairs and administrator quarrels are something that have been well documented online. With the highly suspicious nature of his messages, I feel the members of FanFiction.net are, at the very least, entitled to some kind of formal verification of his place on the staff, which is all we're asking. FanFiction.net needs to offer a list of current and active admins, seeing as how they have access to our personal contact information, and given the ever-present possibility of shaky in-group relationships where any angry employee could flee with all of our information, I feel it's a rather simple request to make. 

In fairness to all parties, it should also be noted that there is one instance (out of the sixty six I've witnessed) wherein the author feels as though James is legitimate, and there is an apparent good relationship between the two. Her experiences do show inconsistencies with the theory that James may not be a true administrator, as she claims that he did, in fact, pull her story. Though it was evidently removed in error, James was able to not only completely restore the story in a very timely manner, but he was also able to recover all reviews and story/chapter IDs from its "eradication" from the FFn database.

To alert FanFiction.net about James' suspicious behavior or demand a statement be made to allay concerns, you can send an email to reportabuse@fanfiction.com and/or categories@fanfiction.com, if you feel as though the support@fanficiton.com email address has been compromised. Again, I can't confirm that it has, and though there is little-to-no evidence to the contrary, I don't want to fuel any assumptions. People who are choosing to disregard James' emails and warnings should remain aware of the consequences, should he be a legitimate employee with the authority to render true administrative action.

This entire matter has nothing to do with the current debate over adult/MA/NC-17 rated material, or stories being pulled as a result of true guideline violations.The real issue of this matter is being assured that we're corresponding with real staff.

I'll keep updating this journal with any new information or progress.

Thanks to everyone who forwarded me their emails, those who helped me obtain addresses and IPs, and everyone who's working to get the word out about the possible risk James poses.

And for the love of God/Gandalf/Merlin/Rob/Conor, do not EVER give out your password, or any other personal information!



Lubbies!
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[info]giselle_lx

February 28 2010, 19:14:05 UTC 2 years ago

Thank you, AG, for your extreme due dilligence on this. You are going above and beyond the call of duty.

[info]lts29

February 28 2010, 19:17:17 UTC 2 years ago

THIS

[info]lts29

2 years ago

[info]giselle_lx

2 years ago

[info]hellokitten

February 28 2010, 19:23:57 UTC 2 years ago

Wow James is kind of a dick.

[info]darkfrog24

February 28 2010, 19:24:24 UTC 2 years ago

I don't think it would be too much to ask for ffnet to put a post on the main page to the effect of, "We confirm that 'James' is indeed a fanfiction.net administrator," or "A person named 'James' has been masquerading as a fanfiction.net administrator, ordering our users to remove or modify chapters with questionable content. While we always reserve the right to delete any stories that do not comply with our posted guidelines, we do not endorse James's actions. If you see a chapter that offends you, respond by reporting it through official channels, not through impersonating fanction.net staff."

That being said, if ffnet posted a list of current admins, then trolls would simply appropriate one of those names.

[info]angstgoddess003

February 28 2010, 19:31:21 UTC 2 years ago

I agree a complete staff listing would just give trolls more fodder to masquerade, but the benefits kind of outweigh the annoyances, I think. I know very few sites where the staff isn't listed, actually. And their whole method of contact is just laughable, anyway. Speaking as a web dev myself, I get that offering too much contact info will simply inundate them with useless crap, but they need to find a happy medium. At least if we had a clear, direct method of contact per every admin, we could take suspicions like these to someone we are positive is active. Right now, it's just kind of... post and email a lot and hope it catches someone's attention. That just really sucks. I'm glad this isn't a service I pay for, but the sponsors do pay, and they pay because they know it gets traffic, so in a way, we do fund the site, to an extent. It's not so much to ask.

[info]lemonade8

2 years ago

[info]staceygirl1

February 28 2010, 19:30:03 UTC 2 years ago

AG I might be in love with you now. Start a new ff site- we'll all go. You make money off of it.

Has James actually pulled anyone's stories besides the one above - I think that person probably IS James. Just a theory :)

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[info]angstgoddess003

February 28 2010, 19:33:23 UTC 2 years ago

Nah they do email from .com. Like... if you look at all your update alerts, you'll notice they come from the .com name, and we KNOW those are legit.

[info]soundfurious

February 28 2010, 19:34:56 UTC 2 years ago

If you remove the last two paragraphs then it will fall in line with guiideline. I can't show you how to do it unless I go into your account.

That's a freaky response. When I emailed in October about the centering issue, all James needed to know was my penname and which document I was having issues with. I went in later and that document had been altered. He didn't ask if he could go in, he just did it. Which was fine.

How do you show someone by going into their account? They're not going to see how you did what you did.

I posted my "James" email in the last entry; I didn't think to forward it directly to you. Thanks for being the one to keep us informed on this whole thing.

[info]angstgoddess003

February 28 2010, 19:37:32 UTC 2 years ago

Oh, I saw it, and added you into the chart. XD Thanks for the help!

[info]jennc32

February 28 2010, 19:40:37 UTC 2 years ago

James

I just read your post about FF and James. I am having some difficulty of my own. Has anyone else, besides me mentioned the possibility of having their accounts hacked into. Pretty sure it happened to me! I got an email for an Author and was upset that I had left a review stating I had reported her for not using her own work. I had never heard of the author or never have reported a story. There were 2 other authors who msged me too, but they are no longer on ff.net and I also had never heard of them. Luckily the author who is still on ff.net and I worked this out. I changed my password for now and will be just deleting my account after getting my new one set up. I however, tried to send a message to reportabuse@fanfiction.com by their link and also just typing in the address and the email keeps getting returned to me. So the author and I are just going to drop it. Just curious if you have heard anything else about this.

[info]angstgoddess003

February 28 2010, 19:46:25 UTC 2 years ago

Re: James

I've heard one other occurrence like this, but it might have been you. Other than that, no. =(

[info]jennc32

2 years ago

[info]lts29

February 28 2010, 19:42:00 UTC 2 years ago

Is it possible that there are two people named James? One official and the other not. Or are they all coming from the same email address with the same IP? In the case of MoTU's author, could it be a real admin named James?

Am I grasping at straws??

[info]angstgoddess003

February 28 2010, 19:44:21 UTC 2 years ago

I've never seen an email from support@fanfiction.com before this began, and they are all from James, most within the last 2 months. But all IPs are form the same Google IP. It has been argued that it's very possible that FFn is outsourcing their support to freelancers or some such, which I agree, is totally possible. I just find it suspect that he refuses to offer an email or name of a superior or colleague to verify this.

[info]lts29

2 years ago

[info]giselle_lx

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[info]lts29

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[info]lts29

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[info]lts29

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[info]darkfrog24

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[info]soundfurious

February 28 2010, 19:59:52 UTC 2 years ago

I'm just throwing this out there, but you said no one seems to have gotten any "James" emails since you called him out. I assume that was the same time you emailed the rest of the staff (or we hope it got to them).

It could be that he's been removed and they're trying to figure out what to say, if anything. You know how people get; announcing that some staffer went batshit or that their system was hacked would cause a huge panic. They might just say nothing, and frankly, I wouldn't have a problem with that. It's not like someone hacked my credit card account.

I'm personally not worried about them getting our "information"; all they have is email, after all. Srsly, some admins are better than others, but I don't ever use an email I wouldn't be comfortable posting in public. And IP shows your general location, but anyone whose LJ you frequent or who's ever gotten an email from you can trace your IP. Nothing's anonymous anyway.

I'm just putting myself in their position. If they say anything, what could it possibly be? If they say to be suspicious of emails threatening deletion, then no one will ever listen to an email from the staff again, even if there's a legitimate issue. They'll have to delete without notice (which is arguably how it really gets done anyway) and then people will be pissing and moaning about no warning. If they've been victims of a rogue or a troll, they're really in a no-win situation.

[info]angstgoddess003

February 28 2010, 20:06:37 UTC 2 years ago

A monosyllabic reply would suffice.

Do you have an employee on staff by the name of James?

"Yes." "No."

Then we'll take it from there. But really, that kind of answer would clear up so much.

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[info]soundfurious

February 28 2010, 20:53:07 UTC 2 years ago

It does leave one open to phishing, but whereas I've never been phished at the emails I use for fandom stuff, I get them all the time at my personal email. Some come addressed to disposable addresses that I only gave to "reputable" companies, like my bank. That stuff propagates like bacteria, but it's never affected my RL other than to annoy the piss out of me.

Even if the whole site gets exposed as nothing more than phishers, the worst-case scenario is the same spam you get anyway. It's not legal for them to do it, but then again, it wasn't legal for my bank, either, and they're still in business. If our information has been compromised and they're ignoring the problem so they don't have to actually fix it, they deserve whatever happens. Either way, people can at least be reassured that it's not a CC site or even one that takes PayPal.

Anonymous

2 years ago

[info]lovinthelies

February 28 2010, 20:26:29 UTC 2 years ago

LOL, James. You devil, you.

Thanks for the followup!

[info]giselle_lx

February 28 2010, 20:27:52 UTC 2 years ago

Question. Has anyone cross-checked the authors who've received e-mails from "James" with e-mail addresses that were on the two mass mails?

[info]soundfurious

February 28 2010, 20:54:27 UTC 2 years ago

Is that the one you Twittered "BCC, people!" about?

[info]giselle_lx

2 years ago

[info]livreid

February 28 2010, 20:29:16 UTC 2 years ago

I didn't receive a email from James, I received a review, an anonymous one at that. I deleted it. I didn't even take it seriously.

[info]ssherrill115

February 28 2010, 20:31:40 UTC 2 years ago

James

Thank you AG for all your hard work trying to protect all of us. You are such a good friend of the fandom!!!

[info]lasmke

February 28 2010, 20:40:00 UTC 2 years ago

Oh OH OH, I hope you hear from his supervisor, and her name is Victoria. *giggles*

I seriously can't even say how awesome all of this information is. Thank you for all the effort you have put in to this. I can only imagine how time consuming it must be.

You need a vacation and a break and I'm sending the Doctor to rescue you:
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[info]knittingfynatyc

February 28 2010, 20:44:02 UTC 2 years ago

Thank you SO much for keeping up with this when you don't have to, and keeping everyone as informed as you can. I feel this James character isn't who he says he is but I have no smarts in trying to track him like you and whoever else is, so THANK YOU. :)

[info]lilacs46

February 28 2010, 20:47:38 UTC 2 years ago

I know how to prove if James is legit. Post a fake chapter, then e-mail him stating that you tried to delte it, but it won't. Then ask if he can detle it for you. If he actually works for the site he should be able to delete it.

[info]ebonyeyez1

February 28 2010, 20:48:53 UTC 2 years ago

Thanks for informing us about this new fanfuckery. Not only has Twilight fandom been hit, but also Southern Vampire Mysteries/True Blood. It really sickens me how because of crap like this is going on, how all of the great stories and writers are jumping ship to other fandom sites to post their stories. I still believe it is a bunch of kids who write inferior stories and who are just plain jealous.

[info]giselle_lx

February 28 2010, 20:56:19 UTC 2 years ago

Will you encourage folks in SVM fandom to forward their e-mails? That it's going beyond the Twilight fandom is important info.

[info]ebonyeyez1

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[info]xaipre

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[info]ebonyeyez1

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Anonymous

February 28 2010, 20:50:49 UTC 2 years ago

I've been on fanfiction.net for years, and the rules for author's notes (not interactive, no review responses/shoutouts, etc) were at one point posted on the main page among the site updates. (It must have been at least 3 or 4 years ago, and the site went through a slew of deletions for author's notes violations at the time.) But that has long since scrolled off, and no one ever added it to the guidelines anywhere else (other than that the author's notes need to be short). I guess new members are just expected to be psychic.

[info]cecelle

February 28 2010, 20:51:35 UTC 2 years ago

This was from me - I got logged out somehow!

[info]lts29

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[info]lts29

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[info]cecelle

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[info]cataclysmic_472

February 28 2010, 20:58:26 UTC 2 years ago

...

i love how his name is james. james is always the bad guy.

[info]darcy1013

February 28 2010, 20:58:32 UTC 2 years ago

RE: Thank you

Thank you for championing the effort to get to the bottom of what appears to be a gross misconduct or abuse of power. I agree that "James'" responses appear in some instances to be inappropriate for an administrator of a site of this size. Ah, the irony of "James displays the grammar obviously indicative of someone who's been hired to represent a literary archive." I had to chuckle. I find it difficult to believe that ff.net would suddenly amend rules without notifying its authors or that it would make rules up as it goes along. This whole thing is fishy. What's frightening is if it is a troll who has not only infiltrated and is sending messages, but is also filtering concerned authors and members e-mail queries! How does one contact supervisors at ff.net? I wonder if the advertisers would care that this site may have security breaches.

Thanks again for all your efforts. Love your graph. You are much appreciated in the fandom.

[info]subtlynice

February 28 2010, 21:10:55 UTC 2 years ago

All very suspicious. Thank you for bringing this to everyone's attention and putting in so much effort to get to the bottom of this.

[info]lemonade8

February 28 2010, 22:09:58 UTC 2 years ago

I know you aren't interested in speculation, but as a moderator of a different site I can say we've had quite a few instances of someone in a household aquiring the password of a legitimate member and causing mayhem for fun. I could theoretically see that happening to a moderator as well. And speaking as a moderator, I could certainly go into a user's post and modify it if I had to. A legitimate mod (to my knowledge) does NOT need someone's password. Someone who is not familiar with a website or who does not have permissions from admin *would*.

Good luck with this. I hope that everything gets cleared up for you soon.

[info]reds_red

February 28 2010, 22:27:33 UTC 2 years ago

JB gets no BJ cause he's eunuch

James=Fan Fiction Fucktard. Time wasting mindfucking idiot.
*double fist pump* Go Sam! What your doing is awesome for everyone. But its a shame it is taking u away from your fucktabulous creations we love. (lurve the cat pic's...lol)
New position for you..."Sam the Sleuth"

[info]jennlynnfs

February 28 2010, 22:41:38 UTC 2 years ago

Shit. You graphed that. That's pretty awesome.

But in all seriousness, it's appalling how difficult it is to get any type of confirmation on this issue. If we get an answer either way, at least we'll feel like someone is there and is aware of the situation. For as much traffic and use the site gets, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some kind of support from an admin.

We also shouldn't become complacent just b/c credit card information isn't tied into the site. Again, for as much traffic this site receives and the amount of money they get from the ads, there should be some kind of security in place and if there's a problem, we should feel like it will be dealt with. If they do all of that behind the scenes that's fine, but it doesn't even feel like that's happening.

If I had the time to open various email accounts to be used for specific sites, I'd do it to avoid possible security breaches. But I shouldn't have to b/c I expect the site to be secure. I suppose you could say it would be my fault for not taking the extra precautions to protect my information, but at what point will the site be held accountable? I don't think it's unreasonable to expect some kind of accountability for a site this large.

Thank you, AG for taking the time to compile all this and keep track of it. It's really appreciated it.

[info]soundfurious

February 28 2010, 23:03:27 UTC 2 years ago

It does suck to keep trying to contact someone and get no response, particularly if you feel you're being ignored on purpose because they don't feel like dealing with the issue. In this case, I can see why they might need a little time to investigate and decide what they're going to do. At least AG didn't get a nasty response about how busy they are and how complicated the issue is. Or that could be so they can pretend like they never heard a word. I cringe when I think of what might be coming.

I'd like to be able to expect accountability from them, as well, but not everybody is willing to take responsibility when something goes wrong. You can't force them to do what they said they would, particularly if you're not paying for the service (which they will use as an excuse, I'm sure). I'm not saying they shouldn't have any responsibility just because all we gave them were our emails; I'm just saying that if we're dealing with irresponsible flouncers, the one bright side is that that's all we ever shared.
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